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« on: Mar 10th, 2004, 2:23pm »
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:clapping: House likely to back fat lawsuit limits :clapping:

 
Wednesday, March 10, 2004 Posted: 10:08 AM EST (1508 GMT)  
 
WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- The House of Representatives on Wednesday will take up a bill that would block so-called "frivolous" lawsuits that accuse fast-food chains and other segments of the food industry of causing obesity.
 
The bill states that its aim is "to prevent frivolous lawsuits against the manufacturers, distributors or sellers of food or non-alcoholic beverage products" that meet legal and sanitary standards.
 
Rest of story - http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/03/10/fat.lawsuits.reut/index.html
 
:no: Personally, I think it's a shame this situation has come to this.  One should be take responsibility for what one chooses to put in their mouth. :no:
 
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I looked around for the proper place to put this news article and thought that the titile of this thread seems to fit quite nicely.
 
IMHO every now and then, these people seem to delight in calling a press conference and letting the rest of the world know just how WORTHLESS an organization they really are:
 
PETA Ups Anti-KFC Campaign With 'Blood'    
Wed Mar 24, 2:15 PM ET    
 
 
By SONJA BARISIC, Associated Press Writer  
 
NORFOLK, Va. - The animal-rights activists who once suggested Ronald McDonald was a bloody butcher are going after Colonel Sanders, contending cruelty is the "secret recipe" for KFC's fried chicken.    
 
Starting next month, Norfolk-based People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals plans to hand out "Buckets of Blood" to children outside KFC restaurants and at schools near the restaurants. The buckets are part of PETA's campaign against what it says are farming and slaughter abuses by KFC's suppliers.  
 
The 5-inch-tall, red-and-white striped containers mimic KFC's buckets. But instead of fried chicken, each is filled with items including a bag of fake blood and bones, a bloodied plastic chicken and a cardboard caricature of a blood-spattered Colonel Sanders holding a butcher knife toward a terrified-looking chicken.  
 
Labels on the bucket proclaim, "Shhh! The 'secret recipe' in this bucket of body parts is ... cruelty" and "The Colonel's secret recipe: live scalding, painful debeaking, crippled chickens."  
 
KFC spokeswoman Bonnie Warschauer initially said, "We don't comment on the corporate terrorist activities of PETA. They are corporate terrorists and just like the United States government, we will not negotiate with corporate terrorists."  
 
Warschauer added that "PETA has totally crossed the line of free speech and acceptable behavior" and "all they want is a vegetarian world."  
 
"They misrepresent the truth about our responsible, industry-leading animal welfare standards," she said. "We're committed to the humane treatment of chickens."  
 
KFC, part of Louisville, Ky.-based Yum! Brands Inc., has an animal welfare advisory council made up of highly regarded experts, Warschauer said. She added that while the company does not own chicken farms, it monitors suppliers to determine whether they are using humane procedures.  
 
PETA spokesman Bruce Friedrich said the campaign is "about getting KFC to stop supporting abuse of chickens that shocks the conscience of any kind person."  
 
A label on the bucket says "Just for you, KFC's suppliers cram thousands of chickens into filthy sheds, sear baby chicks' beaks off with a hot wire, slam the birds into crates (breaking their wings and legs), slice their throats open and scald them to death while they're still conscious. Enjoy."  
 
The buckets are reminiscent of the "Unhappy Meals" PETA began distributing in 2000 as part of a public relations assault against McDonald's. The boxes, similar to the Happy Meals that McDonald's serves to children, contained a stuffed doll that looked like Ronald McDonald holding a bloody butcher's knife.  
 
PETA suspended its campaign against McDonald's in response to an announcement by the fast-food chain that it would improve living conditions for its chickens. McDonald's officials said PETA had nothing to do with its initiative.
 
PETA plans to begin handing out the buckets on the West Coast and in the Midwest in mid- to late April, then branch out from there, Friedrich said. PETA eventually will have people distributing the buckets all over North America as well as in Australia, India, the United Kingdom and South Africa, he said.  
 
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... i can't help but comment... but.. why does these people are so mad on the treatment of chickens that are going to the slaughter houses to become food?... i don't see the reason why.... because...no matter how humane they will treat this birds... in the end they will still be butchered or killed to become food in one way or another...  it's not that i'm cruel to animals, but i think the chickens, pigs, and cows that are bred and raised to become food will end up as food no matter what process they go through...  
 
and i think the reason why chickens are scalded while still alive is so that they can preserve the freshness of these... because here i believe even pigs are slaughteed in an "inhumane" way so that they would arrive in the marketplaces still warm and fresh... IMHO  
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...i think the chickens, pigs, and cows that are bred and raised to become food will end up as food no matter what process they go through...

That is disgusting. I may be in the minority here, but I don't think you can justify the deplorable conditions of factory farms by saying they're just going to end up dead anyway. Places like KFC can't be doing this crap to preserve freshness. Their "food" tastes like grease anyway if I remember correctly. It's been a long time thank you very much.
 
There's no reason why huge multinationals can't afford to give these animals better conditions & a less painful death. What would it cost? An extra $.02 per wing? Fine. Can't afford it? Then forego the 24 ounce Pepsi you're going to buy.
 
And by the way, going vegetarian is one of the best things you can do for your health and the enviroment. More meat means more overgrazing, more pollution from feedlots and slaughterhouses, more forestland cleared for pasture, and so on and so on.  
 
You may not agree with PETA's actions, but don't knock it 'til ya try it... going veg that is.
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on Mar 25th, 2004, 4:22pm, jetgirl wrote:

. . . . Their "food" tastes like grease anyway if I remember correctly.  
 
. . . . .And by the way, going vegetarian is one of the best things you can do for your health and the enviroment. More meat means more overgrazing, more pollution from feedlots and slaughterhouses, more forestland cleared for pasture, and so on and so on.  
 

 
 
Grease??   I think that's why it call it FRIED chicken.  Wink
 
. . . . and I was unaware that all those vegatables grew in the middle of the forest.  I always thought you had to clear land to grow crops. Wink
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Just expressing my views as you were yours. I don't have any data on how many acres of old-groth or rain forests were desroyed for crops. Do you?
 
I'm a proponent of simplifying our food sources. Less pesticides will be better for all of us, inculding you omnivores. Go organic (veggies & meat)!    :sunny:
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on Mar 25th, 2004, 9:21pm, jetgirl wrote:
Go organic (veggies & meat)!    :sunny:

 
 Huh  Chicken isn't meat?
 
Personally, I eat everything the Lord provided this earth to grow.  I eat this food according to season.  I purchase this food according to my budget and/or preference.
 
jetgirl - if you're a vegetarian, great.  Fine!  I believe everyone should have their choice of nourishment and not be put down for it.  
 
We have a fine, upstanding young woman here by the name of chickmama.  Her family has a chicken "farm" - new age, for sure.  Perhaps you'd like to continue this discussion with her?
 
ETA:  Peta?  Don't get me started......don't EVEN get me started........
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PETA - Please Eat The Animals
This couldn't be titled any better "G.I.V.E.  M.E.  A.  B.R.E.A.K. !!!!".  If a vegetarian only eats veggies, what about ALL the bug rights activist, you are taking away all the food for the bugs.  To be an actual humanitarian you must not exist.
 
And about the Dolphins getting stuck in the Tuna nets.  What about the TUNA!
If the dolphins are sooo smart teach the to go around the tuna net.
 
Thank you Brad Stine.
 
Brad Stine is a comedian who lost a gig at Pepperdine Univ. because he said in part of his "ACT" that a fork and knife is BETTER than chop sticks.
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I'm not putting anyone down for eating meat. Take the same advice as it relates to vegetarians.
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Of course chicken is meat. Organic meat is a growing industry.
 
BrightGuy, I have no idea who Brad Stine & no clue what you mean with the chop sticks thing, but I suggest you look up the definition of humanitarian.  
 
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on Mar 26th, 2004, 8:34am, jetgirl wrote:

 
Of course chicken is meat. Organic meat is a growing industry.

 
I've never thought of meat farms as being organic.   Huh
 
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It wasn't hard to check out who Brad Stine is - just Google.  http://www.bradstine.com/
 
His pix and another site:
http://christianparadise.com/pfs/stine.html
 
I know you didn't ask me but I'm answering because I don't think BG is online right now.
 
The noun "humanitarian"........
 
1. humanitarian, do-gooder, improver -- (someone devoted to the promotion of human welfare and to social reforms)
 
And another definition:
Humanitarian  
(a.) Pertaining to humanitarians, or to humanitarianism; as, a humanitarian view of Christ's nature.
(a.) Content with right affections and actions toward man; ethical, as distinguished from religious; believing in the perfectibility of man's nature without supernatural aid.
(a.) Benevolent; philanthropic.
(n.) One who denies the divinity of Christ, and believes him to have been merely human.
(n.) One who limits the sphere of duties to human relations and affections, to the exclusion or disparagement of the religious or spiritual.
(n.) One who is actively concerned in promoting the welfare of his kind; a philanthropist.
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OK,OK, all you vegaterians and meateaters,  back to your virtual netural corners, it's time to move on.  Grin
 
Ya' know, I'm liking this thread title more and more!  Seems like a good location to stick all the "over the top" crap that people come up with.  Roll Eyes
 
Now, . . .on to the next pressing issue at hand!
 
This just in from the epicenter of over the top, . . . Santa Monica, California (otherwise known at Granola Central: home of fruits, nuts and flakes).  The City Council has given tentative approval to an ordinanace that would BAN smoking along a 13 mile stretch of open air beach and on the city's pier that extends out into the Pacific ocean.  
 
I was unaware that this problem has risen to such epic purportions!!  I have this vision of smokers being forced to boat beyond the three mile limit out into the Pacific to light up!
 
Well, just to show that the city fathers of Granola Capital do not have the corner sewn up on over the top regulations, I retaliate.
 
Since I do enjoy sitting out on my patio and smoking a nice cigar while sipping a little Jack Daniels from time to time because the female half of the Bumper family won't let me do so in the house (hmmmm, I wonder if she's ever been to Santa Monica?), I am FORCED to adopt the following regulation here at the Bumper plantation, purely for civil liability reasons, mind you.
 
From this time forth, residents of Santa Monica who step foot on said Bump property shall cease and desist from breathing any and all oxygen that is present on the aforementioned premises.  Violaters will be charged with the THEFT of said air belonging to me and will also be charged with ILLEGAL DUMPING of the resulting carbon dioxide as a result of their respiration.  Nothing in this Bumper ordinance should be construed as to indicate that the naybobs of Santa Monica are unwelcome on Bumper property and are welcome to stay for as long as they like . . . . .  
 
. . . . . as long as they can hold their breath until they leave.  Grin
 
 
See?  It's not only the do-gooders of Santa Monica that have waaaay too much time on their hands!  Grin
 
I'm retired.  I wonder what their excuse is?  Wink
 
 
Thirteen miles of coastal open air beach??  GIVE ME A BREAK!
 
 
 
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Ireland just passed a national ban on smoking in public places, including thousands of pubs and if I read it correctly, extending to truckers in their cabs. Fines of up to 4,000 could be imposed on pub owners who aren't found to be taking every reasonable effort to keep their patrons from smoking. This is just completely unrealistic. Dublin maybe. It's very cosmopolitan and likely to be more populated with health conscious citizens, but rural Ireland as well? Pubs are a way of life, sometimes the only entertainment in town. And something like (40%?) of the population smoke. Most pub owners think the new law is absurd and plan on conducting business as usual.  It's admirable that the country is taking a position of healthiness, but punishing the majority for not behaving like the minority is just wrong.
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on Mar 26th, 2004, 9:52am, MzWings wrote:

I've never thought of meat farms as being organic.   Huh

 
I could be mistaken, but I believe "organic meat" is from animals that aren't given steroids, hormones and antibiotics.  A lot of animals anymore are supplemented and injected with these things to keep them healthy and bigger as they are raised.  Naturally there are starting to be more and more reports of how unhealthy it is for us to eat animals that have been and so "organic meat" is a fairly new term for animals that are raised without the chemical additives in the old fashioned way.
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on Mar 28th, 2004, 7:00am, marladusa wrote:
Ireland just passed a national ban on smoking in public places, including thousands of pubs.  And something like (40%?) of the population smoke.  It's admirable that the country is taking a position of healthiness, but punishing the majority for not behaving like the minority is just wrong.

 
Last time I checked, if 40% smoke, then 60% don't smoke, so the majority is being protected from second-hand smoke, they're not being punished.  Also, if the Irish government provides universal health-care, and I believe they do, they have a direct financial incentive in discouraging the people from smoking, since it's the government that will pay for the medical treatment for the cancer, emphasema, and heart attacks that smoking causes.
 
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well... i think that's good for Ireland to have a national smoking ban.. so as to uplift the health of its citizen...  here in Manila, only Makati City has implemented the smoking ban in public places...
 
i hope that many more places implement smoking bans... i am nothing against to smokers but smokers should be responsible enough... i speak of this because my dad is a chain-smoker which gave me a weak lungs since childhood... i had primary complex (tuberculosis in babies) when i was young and was very sickly... Grin
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