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Bill Cosby has harsh words for black community
« on: Jul 2^nd, 2004, 7:40pm »

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Bill Cosby has more harsh words for black community
Friday, July 2, 2004 Posted: 2:41 PM EDT (1841 GMT)

CHICAGO, Illinois (AP) -- Bill Cosby went off on another tirade against the black community Thursday, telling a room full of activists that black children are running around not knowing how to read or write and "going nowhere."

He also had harsh words for struggling black men, telling them: "Stop beating up your women because you can't find a job."

Cosby made headlines in May when he upbraided some poor blacks for their grammar and accused them of squandering opportunities the civil rights movement gave them.

He shot back Thursday, saying his detractors were trying in vain to hide the black community's "dirty laundry."

"Let me tell you something, your dirty laundry gets out of school at 2:30 every day, it's cursing and calling each other n------ as they're walking up and down the street," Cosby said during an appearance at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition & Citizenship Education Fund's annual conference.

"They think they're hip," the entertainer said. "They can't read; they can't write. They're laughing and giggling, and they're going nowhere."

In his remarks in May at a commemoration of the anniversary of the Brown v. Board of Education desegregation decision, Cosby denounced some blacks' grammar and said those who commit crimes and wind up behind bars "are not political prisoners."

"I can't even talk the way these people talk, 'Why you ain't,' 'Where you is' ... and I blamed the kid until I heard the mother talk," Cosby said then. "And then I heard the father talk ... Everybody knows it's important to speak English except these knuckleheads. You can't be a doctor with that kind of crap coming out of your mouth."

Cosby elaborated Thursday on his previous comments in a talk interrupted several times by applause. He castigated some blacks, saying that they cannot simply blame whites for problems such as teen pregnancy and high school dropout rates.

"For me there is a time ... when we have to turn the mirror around," he said. "Because for me it is almost analgesic to talk about what the white man is doing against us. And it keeps a person frozen in their seat, it keeps you frozen in your hole you're sitting in."

Cosby lamented that the racial slurs once used by those who lynched blacks are now a favorite expression of black children. And he blamed parents.

"When you put on a record and that record is yelling 'n----- this and n----- that' and you've got your little 6-year-old, 7-year-old sitting in the back seat of the car, those children hear that," he said.

He also condemned black men who missed out on opportunities and are now angry about their lives.

"You've got to stop beating up your women because you can't find a job, because you didn't want to get an education and now you're (earning) minimum wage," Cosby said. "You should have thought more of yourself when you were in high school, when you had an opportunity."

Cosby appeared Thursday with the Rev. Jesse Jackson, founder and president of the education fund, who defended the entertainer's statements.

"Bill is saying let's fight the right fight, let's level the playing field," Jackson said. "Drunk people can't do that. Illiterate people can't do that."

Cosby also said many young people are failing to honor the sacrifices made by those who struggled and died during the civil rights movement.

"Dogs, water hoses that tear the bark off trees, Emmett Till," he said, naming the black youth who was tortured and murdered in Mississippi in 1955, allegedly for whistling at a white woman. "And you're going to tell me you're going to drop out of school? You're going to tell me you're going to steal from a store?"

Cosby also said he wasn't concerned that some whites took his comments and turned them "against our people."

"Let them talk," he said.

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Re: Bill Cosby has harsh words for black community
« Reply #1 on: Jul 3^rd, 2004, 10:10am »

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WOW, go Bill Cool

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« Reply #2 on: Jul 3^rd, 2004, 11:19am »

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I've been following this on the news too. I think he is doing a good thing opening up their eyes..they are making themselves the minority by not paying attention to what their children are doing and talking like. he is right when he says they are not going to become doctors with the bad english they are using.. kabi

ps I also think it is not just a black thing with the way kids are talking. white kids are doing it to. I have had to correct my kids on this before. It is in alot of the music they try to idolize..

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......and where do you think the white kids are learning this talk? We certainly do not say, "where you is", or use any of the hebonic talk. I can't call it a language!

White kids think it is cool to talk the way their black friends do! Why isn't it the other way around?

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« Reply #4 on: Jul 3^rd, 2004, 6:32pm »

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Kudos to Bill. I've known what he's saying for years and years, but I can't get away with saying it outloud, it isn't "PC". I taught at a junior college for some years and I can tell you that Bill knows whereof he speaks. I got some from the judicial system (go to school or go to jail) and they were totally illiterate. Most were on grants and failed their classes through sheer lack of effort. And guess what they often cried when they failed? One quarter I needed a translator for one girl, literally. I couldn't understand a word the girl said.

Of course on the other side are those who do struggle to make use of the opportunities. We had black office people and faculty and often went to lunch in groups. But the majority, at least in my neck of the woods, are falling in the same holes in the same sidewalks and pointing a blame finger everywhere but at themselves where it belongs.

Oh, and yes the white kids are mocking the slang. My youngest daughter is already in a running battle with her little girl for the crap she's picking up in school.

As I said, huge kudos to Bill. His is a big voice, maybe someone will listen and take up the cry for change.

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« Reply #5 on: Jul 4^th, 2004, 2:42pm »

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WOW! Didnt expect that side of him!

Black slang are considered cool, especially those who follow the rap society. Even here in the Phils., rap fans who dress and act like rappers(with all those hand gestures and angry expressions) talk like the black Americans of today(the younger generation)...

I hope Bill can be heard. I love the more mature black community, even the older entertainers are way better in my opinion - RUN DMC, Morgan Freeman, Bill, Stevie Wonder, etc... most of what I see from the new generation are all about money, girls, being "cool"...

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« Reply #6 on: Jul 6^th, 2004, 8:44pm »

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Agreed, Bill is admired in the community, he can have a lot of influence

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« Reply #7 on: Jul 7^th, 2004, 10:29am »

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bill cosby Cool

"The black man is the black man's worst enemy"
-Tupac, Gansta rapper shot down in "gang" violence

Cosby is quite educated: doctorate in education...

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