Yet Another Bulletin Board
Sponsored by: The Fans!


Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register.
Nov 25th, 2024, 12:48am

Upcoming Premiere Dates:
Survivor 23, Season premiere
Thursday, September 14 (8:00-9:30 PM, ET/PT) on CBS




Home Home Help Help Search Search Members Members Chat Chat Member Map Member Map Login Login Register Register

| Fantasy Survivor Game | Music Forums | The '80s Server Forums | Shop Online |



Metropolis Reality Forums « Proposed Changes to Sex Offender Laws »

   Metropolis Reality Forums
   Off-Topic Forums
   In the News
(Moderators: lakelady, yesteach, MediaScribe, Bumper, Isle_be_back)
   Proposed Changes to Sex Offender Laws
Previous topic | New Topic | Next topic »
Pages: 1  Reply Reply Add Poll Add Poll Notify of replies Notify of replies Send Topic Send Topic Print Print
   Author  Topic: Proposed Changes to Sex Offender Laws  (Read 150 times)
Rhune
ForumsNet Administrator
USA 
*****





29289456 29289456   rhune_1971   Rhune1971
View Profile Email

Gender: female
Posts: 292
Proposed Changes to Sex Offender Laws
« on: Aug 22nd, 2005, 5:39pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166264,00.html
 
All too often the criminal justice system in this country strikes a poor balance between fair and equal treatment for the accused and the accuser. Nowhere is this gap more evident than in the handling of violent sexual predators. The case of Joseph Duncan, arrested in a restaurant in Idaho and charged with the kidnap and rape of the eight-year-old girl who accompanied him, is a perfect example of the system's failure.  
 
Duncan has left a long, slimy trail of child sexual abuse behind him, yet he's remained free. It's hard to understand, particularly in light of Duncan's self-analysis. By his own estimate, he'd raped at least 13 boys, some at gunpoint, by age 16.
 
Then, in 1980, he was convicted of sexually assaulting a 14-year-old boy in Washington state and sentenced to 20 years in prison. Instead of locking him up, Duncan spent a couple of years in a psychiatric program designed to turn around sexual offenders. It didn't work. Tossed back in prison, he was released in 1994, only to violate his parole and be recommitted.
 
Now he's charged with nearly wiping out an entire family, allegedly killing Brenda Groene, her boyfriend Mark McKenzie, and her 13-year-old son, Shane, and abducting her two youngest children - Dylan and Shasta Groene.
 
Dylan, 9, and Shasta, 8, were repeatedly raped, then Duncan allegedly murdered Dylan. After someone recognized Shasta from news reports, the police were called, the child rescued and Duncan taken into custody. At the time of this particular arrest Duncan was wanted for sexually assaulting yet another little boy on a school playground.
 
That's not all. Since his apprehension, authorities say they have possible connections to at least three other murdered children and they're not through digging into Duncan's squalid past.
 
Putting the Joseph Duncans of this world where they can't harm additional children has long been a law enforcement priority. There's no greater satisfaction than removing a violent sexual predator from the streets.
 
But in most cases, it doesn't last. Until they finally kill a child - and amazingly, sometimes not even then - most child rapists will one day be back out, free to steal a child's innocence or even his or her life.
It's time to tip the scales in favor of the kids.
 
Many jurisdictions have responded to this problem with their own initiatives. Tired of reading about children kidnapped, raped and killed by known pedophiles, towns in places like Florida and New Jersey have taken the unusual step of throwing an imaginary net around their schools.
 
The net - a "pedophile free zone" - creates a buffer between the schools and the surrounding neighborhoods, where pedophiles are forbidden to live. Civil libertarians may yip, but they'd better get used to it.
Americans are fed up with a criminal justice system that's ineffective against this country's most salacious and disgusting criminals.
 
The National Sex Offender Registry (search) is also a good idea, but only a handful of states have signed on, reducing its value as a crime deterrent. A loose and often unrelated string of state sex offender registries make it easier for residents to see offenders who live in their communities, but information is often old or outdated and if a sex offender doesn't check-in it's also worthless.
 
Pedophiles (search) belong to a category of criminal that is rarely, if ever, cured by serving time. Although not all who are sexually attracted to children give in to the urge to molest, criminal behaviorists say they will always feel the desire. Reported recidivism rates among convicted pedophiles (search) vary wildly and depend on the criminal's preferences and how long he's been out of jail. Who besides Joseph Duncan really knows how many children he's violated or murdered?
 
The reason so many violent sexual predators rape again should come as no
surprise: this is something that no combination of psychology or treatment fixes. Stemming the sexual desire for children isn't like quitting smoking. One doesn't slap a patch on one's shoulder to stifle the urge to carnally know a child.
 
Violent sexual predators should be treated the same as "three-strikes"
offenders and given mandatory life sentences without parole - even on the first conviction. For those too squeamish to impose harsh criminal statutes, there are other options. Although it didn't help the Groene family, Washington state passed a civil law that provides for the continued confinement of violent sexual predators long after they've served their sentences. Upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2001, several states have used Washington's statute as a model for their own laws.
 
The downside to continued confinement in any setting is that the government will have to accommodate more child sex offenders. I can live with that - in fact, I'll drop a check in the mail to my local Department of Corrections to help with their upkeep. I consider it a bargain.
 
The upside? People like Joseph Duncan who are convicted of these crimes once will never resurface in society again. No redemption through psychiatry, rehabilitation or behaving in prison.
 
Expensive - yes. But the payoff - children who might cross paths with monsters like Duncan spared the terrible fate of looking into their rapists' eyes - is worth the price. I don't think I'm alone in seeing this as a fair trade.
 
Just ask what's left of the Groene family.
 
IP Logged
Back to top
Isle_be_back
ForumsNet Moderator
Moderator
ForumsNet Member

*****






   
View Profile

Posts: 2270
Re: Proposed Changes to Sex Offender Laws
« Reply #1 on: Aug 22nd, 2005, 6:26pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

My solution...
 
1.  Put them in general population.  
2.  Let all of the other convicts know what crimes these jerks are in for.
3.  Let justice happen.
 
IP Logged
Back to top
Rhune
ForumsNet Administrator
USA 
*****





29289456 29289456   rhune_1971   Rhune1971
View Profile Email

Gender: female
Posts: 292
Re: Proposed Changes to Sex Offender Laws
« Reply #2 on: Aug 22nd, 2005, 7:04pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

Sadly most of them, if given the death penalty, would die of old age first because of all the appeals and backlog.  The only way to "eliminate" them would be to throw em to the general populace.  Sad
IP Logged
Back to top
luci
ForumsNet Member
USA 
*****






   
View Profile

Gender: female
Posts: 12045
Re: Proposed Changes to Sex Offender Laws
« Reply #3 on: Aug 23rd, 2005, 8:20am »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

#1 - There needs to be a death penalty where there is NO appeal for ones who've killed and there is NO doubt!  
 
#2 - Put all of the sex offenders in one place together,  
where they can 'moleste' each other!
 
#3 - Prisons should have a shorter time to inforce the death penalty, WHEN there is NO doubt of guilt!
« Last Edit: Aug 23rd, 2005, 8:22am by luci » IP Logged

"A friend is someone who knows the song in your heart and
can sing it back to you when you have forgotten the words."
Back to top
Rhune
ForumsNet Administrator
USA 
*****





29289456 29289456   rhune_1971   Rhune1971
View Profile Email

Gender: female
Posts: 292
Re: Proposed Changes to Sex Offender Laws
« Reply #4 on: Aug 23rd, 2005, 12:01pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

One of the small silver linings to all of this is that Duncan bragged to Shasta about another little boy he killed in the past, in California, and she recounted all the details to police who were then able to match a fingerprint left on some duct tape from that crime sceen to Duncan and solve that murder.  There was a $100,000 reward for the capture of his killer, and Shasta now stands to be awarded a big chunk of that.  It's certainly no trade off for what happened to her, but at least that money can help pay for therapy and things she will need, to get her back into a place where she can feel safe and happy again.
IP Logged
Back to top
FLORIDAGIRL
ForumsNet Member
USA 
****




My All Time Favorite Team

   
View Profile

Gender: female
Posts: 714
Re: Proposed Changes to Sex Offender Laws
« Reply #5 on: Aug 23rd, 2005, 1:08pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

I think an eye for an eye is too good for this animal!!
 
I second putting him in the general population.  But only after removing certain body parts!
IP Logged
Back to top
luci
ForumsNet Member
USA 
*****






   
View Profile

Gender: female
Posts: 12045
Re: Proposed Changes to Sex Offender Laws
« Reply #6 on: Aug 23rd, 2005, 1:16pm »
Quote Quote Modify Modify

It's time to make the waiting period for the  
death penalty shorter.   I know, appeals,  
but when they are guilty beyond a areasonable  
doubt and have admitted guilt,  
there should be NO appeals!
IP Logged

"A friend is someone who knows the song in your heart and
can sing it back to you when you have forgotten the words."
Back to top
Pages: 1  Reply Reply Add Poll Add Poll Notify of replies Notify of replies Send Topic Send Topic Print Print

Previous topic | New Topic | Next topic »

Metropolis Reality Forums » Powered by YaBB 1 Gold - SP 1.3.1!
YaBB © 2000-2003. All Rights Reserved.