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Vatican Officials Argue AGAINST Intelligent Design
« on: Nov 22^nd, 2005, 11:14am »

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http://www.theregister.com/2005/11/21/id_vatican_not_science/

Intelligent Design is not science, and has no place in science lessons, according to the Vatican's chief astronomer, the Rev. George Coyne. According to the Italian news agency, ANSA, Father Coyne was speaking informally at a conference in Florence when he said that intelligent design "isn't science, even though it pretends to be."

He argued that if it is to be taught in schools, then it should be taught in religion or cultural history classes, but that it should not be on the science curriculum.

Proponents of intelligent design argue that life on Earth is just too complex to have arisen without the aid of some kind of designer. ID's critics point out that its main tenets are highly unscientific and untestable, and say that it is merely creationism in disguise.

Father Coyne has consistently argued against regarding intelligent design as scientific. In June he wrote in Catholic magazine The Tablet:

"If they respect the results of modern science, and indeed the best of modern biblical research, religious believers must move away from the notion of a dictator God or a designer God, a Newtonian God who made the universe as a watch that ticks along regularly."

God, he wrote, is not "continually intervening, but rather allows, participates, loves".

Meanwhile, Austrian Cardinal Christoph Schoenborn has re-entered the debate, also arguing that the biblical story of creation is not a scientific theory.

However, he called for reason in a debate he says has become too ideological, and seemed to criticism those who would "believe" in evolution as a dogma. He argues that it should not be seen as "an offense to Darwin's dignity" for people to offer criticisms of evolutionary theory.

"The theory of evolution is a scientific theory," he said. "What I call evolutionism is an ideological view that says evolution can explain everything in the whole development of the cosmos, from the Big Bang to Beethoven's Ninth Symphony."

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Re: Vatican Officials Argue AGAINST Intelligent De
« Reply #1 on: Nov 22^nd, 2005, 5:31pm »

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I just can't understand why there has to be an argument over this subject. We were doing fine learning about evolution, the big bang etc., and learning about creation from the bible in our religious classes.
I think that trying to suppress the theory of evolution and insert that God created the universe is forcing religion into our schools, and should be stopped!

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« Reply #2 on: Nov 28^th, 2005, 9:13am »

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Interestingly, when I briefly attended a private, conservative, Christian school in middle school, our science teacher (a Creationist) taught us about the theory of evolution. He wasn't afraid to talk about it and wanted us to be informed about it. And this was in science class--the same science class where we learned about creationism. Wink

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I remember being a confused as a kid, when I compared the religious with the scientific. I justified both when I decided that "The first day....the second day" actually meant thousands of years. I certainly didn't want to think my religious teachings were lies or that scientists were ingnorant.

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