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AmberJ
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Montreal Shooting
« on: Sep 13^th, 2006, 1:46pm »

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Reports say four people injured in shooting at Montreal college
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MONTREAL (CP) - A man dressed in military fatigues stormed into the cafeteria of a Montreal college on Wednesday and began shooting, one student said.

Students at Dawson College said four people had been shot, including one in the neck. An unconfirmed report also said one suspect was dead. Devansh Smri Vastava said he saw the man in the fatigues and that he heard about 20 shots.

He also said teachers were running through the halls telling students to get out of the building, which is near the old Montreal Forum in the city's west end.

He said at least three people were armed.

Ingrid Keigan, a 17-year-old student, said she saw one person outside who had been shot in the chest.

One student reported she saw two people who had been shot, including one who had been hit in the neck.

The student said a friend told her four people had been shot.

TV footage showed students fleeing the building which is near the downtown core.

People have also been evacuated from the nearby Alexis-Nihon shopping centre.

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Re: Montreal Shooting
« Reply #1 on: Sep 13^th, 2006, 2:42pm »

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I heard this at school. A lot of people in my school knew people from Dawson. There was a guy next to me on the bus who was trying to call his friends at Dawson. I feel so sad for those who have friends or family who go to the cegep. Here's another article:

MONTREAL - At least one gunman in a black trench coat opened fire Wednesday in the cafeteria of a Montreal college and wounded an unknown number of people before shooting himself, witnesses and police said.

Scores of students at Dawson College near downtown fled into the surrounding streets after the shooting broke out in the school of about 10,000. Some of them had bloody clothes.

CBC-TV showed police with gun drawn standing behind a police cruiser.

Martine Millette of the Montreal police said authorities did not know how many people had been shot. There also was uncertainty if there was more than one gunman. Canadas RDI television network said four people had been killed and 16 injured, according to Reuters.

Millette said the man later shot himself. Constable Philippe Gouin said in all probability, the suspect has committed suicide.

Student Devansh Smri Vastava said he saw a man in military fatigues storm the schools cafeteria and that he heard about 20 shots fired. Other witnesses said the man wore a black trench coat.

He also said teachers ran through the halls telling students to get out.

Another student who gave her name as Chloe tearfully recounted seeing the gunman pointing a weapon at people.

All of a sudden I turned around and saw a man who was all dressed in black, she told radio station 940 News.

This dude with the clothes started pointing the gun at other people. He was right behind me. He turned around and went in the corner of the cafeteria, she said.

Another student told 940 News that she had seen two people who had been shot, including one who was hit in the neck. The student said a friend told her four people had been shot.

Ingrid Keigan, a 17-year-old student, said she saw one person outside who had been shot in the chest.

SWAT team, canine units at the college
A SWAT team and canine units were at the college, going floor by floor to look for victims, Sgt. Giuseppe Boccardi told CNN.

Most of the students have exited the college grounds, he said.

People have also been evacuated from the nearby Alexis-Nihon shopping center.

Dawson College was the first English-language institution in Quebecs network of university preparatory colleges when it was founded in 1969. It is the largest college of general and vocational education, known by its French acronym CEGEP, in the province.
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I was watching the news and it said that 3 gunmen are dead and 1 gunmen is neutralized but there might be more gunmen.
I'll post more if anything new comes up.

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Re: Montreal Shooting
« Reply #2 on: Sep 13^th, 2006, 2:43pm »

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Thanks for the post. I'm at campus right now so it's hard to keep updated....

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« Reply #3 on: Sep 13^th, 2006, 3:02pm »

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The news channel says that there is actually just one gunman, not 3 or 4, just 1. Some police reports said he was neutralized, some say he shot himself.

Police confirmed that at least 4 are dead, 13 are injured.

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« Reply #4 on: Sep 13^th, 2006, 4:05pm »

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/5343714.stm

Several shot at Canadian college

A woman is evacuated during a shooting incident at Dawson College in Montreal, Canada
Some of the casualties are critical

Witness stories
Several people have been injured in a shooting at a college in the Canadian city of Montreal, reports say.

Details on the incident at Dawson College are still sketchy, but a local hospital said 12 had been admitted and at least six were critical.

Eyewitnesses said a gunman dressed in military fatigues had entered the cafeteria at lunchtime.

Some reports said two attackers were dead. The number of gunmen in the incident is not yet clear.

TV footage showed students fleeing the campus and stretchers with casualties.

Police with drawn guns were seen sheltering behind vehicles outside the site.

Eyewitnesses spoke of blood on the steps of the building, which houses 10,000 students.

"I could see him fire several times... I ran into a classroom. It was like something from a movie," student Michel Boyer told CBC television.

Professor Robert Soroka told Reuters news agency the shooting began at 1245 (1645 GMT), and said he heard about 20 shots fired over 30 minutes.

Police have cordoned off the area and nearby sites have been evacuated.

In December 1989 a gunman shot and killed 14 young women in Montreal's Ecole Polytechnique, before turning the gun on himself.

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« Reply #5 on: Sep 14^th, 2006, 10:00am »

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I read this morning that the gunman was obsessed with a Columbine game on the internet. These kinds of games and certain personalities are a lethal combination.

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« Reply #6 on: Sep 14^th, 2006, 2:29pm »

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Here's an article about the gunman. It was a 25 year old called Kimveer Gill from Laval:

(AP) A man with a black trench coat whose shooting rampage in a Montreal college killed one person and wounded 19 others before he was slain by police said on a blog in his name that he liked to play a role-playing Internet game about the Columbine shootings.

The gunman who opened fire at Dawson College on Wednesday was Kimveer Gill, 25, of Laval, near Montreal, a police official said Thursday, speaking on condition of anonymity because authorities were not ready to announce it publicly yet. He also said police had searched Gill's home.

Six shooting victims remained in critical condition, including two in extremely critical condition.

A woman who answered the phone at the Gill's home and said he was her son described him as "a good man."

"Just ask anybody. Ask the neighbors. He was a good son," the woman told The Associated Press. She refused to give her name.

The woman added that police took his computer. "I don't know what they found in the computer. They took everything," she said.

Quebec provincial police Lt. Francois Dore said authorities were waiting for autopsy results before officially identifying the killer, but "everything leads us to believe that it is, in fact, this Mr. Gill."

In postings on a Web site called VampireFreaks.com, blogs in Gill's name show more than 50 photos depicting the young man in various poses holding a rifle and donning a black trench coat and combat boots.

One photo has a tombstone with his name on it and the epitaph: "Lived fast died young. Left a mangled corpse."

The last of six journal entries Wednesday was posted at 10:41 a.m, about two hours before the gunmen was shot to death at Dawson.

He said on the site that he was drinking whiskey in the morning and described his mood the night before as "crazy" and "postal."

At another point, he said he liked to play "Super Columbine Massacre," an Internet-based computer game that simulates the April 20, 1999, shootings at the Colorado high school by two students who killed 13 people and then themselves.

"His name is Trench. you will come to know him as the Angel of Death," he wrote on his vampirefreaks.com profile. "He is not a people person. He has met a handful of people in his life who are decent. But he finds the vast majority to be worthless, no good, conniving, betraying, lying, deceptive."

He wrote that he hates jocks, preppies, country music and hip-hop.

"Work sucks ... school sucks ... life sucks ... what else can I say? ... Life is a video game you've got to die sometime," he added.

Below a picture of Gill aiming the barrel of a gun at the camera there's the inscription: "I think I have an obsession with guns ... muahahaha."

"Anger and hatred simmers within me," said another caption below a picture of Gill grimacing.

He wrote that he is 6-foot-1, was born in Montreal and is of Indian heritage. He said his weakness is laziness and that he fears nothing. Responding to the question, "How do you want to die?" Gill replied "like Romeo and Juliet _ or in a hail of gunfire."

Gill wore a black trench coat during the shooting and opened fire in the cafeteria just as Columbine students Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris did in 1999. Gill also maintained an online blog, similar to Klebold and Harris, devoted to Goth culture, heavy metal music such as Marilyn Manson, guns and journal entries expressing hatred against authority figures and "society."

In another posting, he wrote, "Stop Bullying. It's not only the bully's fault you know!!" He blamed teachers and principals for "turning a blind eye," and police "for not doing anything when people complain."

Gill also posted the comment: "Stop making fun of each other because of the clothes you wear, or the way people talk or act, or any other reasons you make fun of each other. It's all the jocks' fault."

A neighbor who lives across the street from Gill said he was a loner.

"There were never any friends," Louise Leykauf said. "He kept to himself. He always wore dark clothing."

Another neighbor, Mariola Trutschnigg, said she noticed a changed in appearance in recent months when he "started wearing a mohawk and black clothes."

A 23-year-old man and a 12-year-old girl accused in a triple murder in Medicine Hat, Alberta, earlier this year also had profiles on vampirefreaks.com.

Montreal Police Chief Yvan Delorme said the lessons learned from other mass shootings had taught police to try to stop such assaults as quickly as possible.

"Before our technique was to establish a perimeter around the place and wait for the SWAT team. Now the first police officers go right inside. The way they acted saved lives," he said.

Witnesses said Gill started shooting outside the college, then entered the second-floor cafeteria and opened fire without uttering a word. At times, he hid behind vending machines before emerging to take aim _ at one point at a teenager who tried to photograph him with his cell phone.

Police dismissed suggestions that terrorism played a role in the lunch-hour attack.

The gunman opened fire haphazardly at no target in particular, until he saw the police and took aim at them, Delorme said.

Police hid behind a wall as they exchanged fire with the gunman, whose back was against a vending machine, said student Andrea Barone, who was in the cafeteria. He said the officers proceeded cautiously because many students were trapped around the assailant, who yelled "Get back! Get back!" every time an officer tried to move closer.

Eventually, Barone said, the gunman went down in a hail of gunfire.

Delorme said some officers were at the school on an unrelated matter when the shooting began. He said reinforcements were sent to the scene.

Scores of students fled into the streets when the shooting broke out. Some had clothes stained with blood; others cried and clung to each other. Two nearby shopping centers and a daycare center also were evacuated and subway service was disrupted.

"I was terrified. The guy was shooting at people randomly. He didn't care, he was just shooting at everybody," said student Devansh Smri Vastava. "There were cops firing. It was so crazy."

The gunman had a rapid-fire rifle and two other weapons, police said, without elaborating.

"Today we have witnessed a cowardly and senseless act of violence unfold at Montreal's Dawson College," Prime Minister Stephen Harper said. "Our primary concern right now is to ensure the safety and recovery of all those who were injured during this tragedy."

Danny Ledonne, the creator of "Super Columbine Massacre," posted a message of condolence on his site. "I am, like most, saddened by the news of the recent shooting at Dawson College. I extend my condolences to those affected by this painful event," Ledonne wrote.

Dawson, with about 10,000 students, was the first English-language institution in Quebec's network of university preparatory colleges when it was founded in 1969. It was closed until Monday.

Canada's worst mass shooting took place in Montreal when gunman Marc Lepine, 25, killed 14 women at the Ecole Polytechnic on Dec. 6, 1989, before shooting himself.

That shooting spurred efforts for new gun laws achieved mainly as the results of efforts by survivors and relatives of Lepine's victims.

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« Reply #7 on: Sep 14^th, 2006, 7:15pm »

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I hope the people who witnessed this, or were hurt in this get the therapy they will need to recover. This is the kind of situation that could ruin someone's life after having watched, if they internalize it and don't seek help.

I hope all the people wounded recover fully and quickly, my heart goes out to the family of the gal who died. :wail:

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« Reply #8 on: Sep 16^th, 2006, 10:03pm »

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on Sep 13^th, 2006, 2:43pm, AmberJ wrote:

Thanks for the post. I'm at campus right now so it's hard to keep updated....

Amber, are you at Dawson? I can't imagine how awful this must have been... BBC also has an "eyewitness" link, where you can send in comments if you were there or go there. One person sent in that they just shoved all the tables in the classroom against the door because they couldn't get out of the building without going past where the gunman was.. so they just barricaded themselves in and tried to wait it out...

scary stuff!!

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« Reply #9 on: Sep 17^th, 2006, 3:28am »

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This is just too awful!! Cry

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« Reply #10 on: Sep 17^th, 2006, 4:49am »

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Just now hearing about this and am sick over it.

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« Reply #11 on: Sep 17^th, 2006, 7:37am »

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on Sep 16^th, 2006, 10:03pm, yesteach wrote:

No, no I'm not at Dawson, my sister has friends there though.. I'm at Toronto and was on campus when I read about it on the front page of CNN, so it was hard to keep with up to date, minute by minute coverage.

The terrible thing about this is, Kimveer (the shooter) had nothing against Dawson College but he just hated the world and used Dawson as his exit. In past school shootings there was a motive at their target (Polytechnique in 1989, the shooter hated women in Engineering and thus opened fire on them; Columbine the two shooters hated their school and certain people or groups of people within the school etc)... But this was completely random which makes it even more difficult to comprehend

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