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AmberJ
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Are Ladies Nights unfair?
« on: Dec 17^th, 2007, 11:26am »

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NEW YORK - Men are not discriminated against by "ladies' nights" at Manhattan nightclubs, just as people in their 20s do not suffer because some restaurants let children eat for free or have "early bird" specials for older customers, according to nightclub lawyers fighting a federal lawsuit.

Roy Den Hollander has sued clubs including Lotus and the China Club, saying he was discriminated against by ladies' nights, which offer women free or discounted admission and drinks.

Deborah Swindells Donovan, a lawyer for Lotus, called the lawsuit frivolous in papers filed Friday in U.S. District Court.

She wrote that if his "ill-conceived theory is applied to restaurants, then 'early bird' specials for the elderly or promotions allowing children to eat free would be discriminatory on the basis of age."

Vanessa R. Elliott, a lawyer representing the club AER Lounge, said in court papers Friday that nightclubs recognize that men might not want to visit the clubs if they fail to attract enough women.

"Under this theory, male customers may actually benefit from ladies' nights in other ways and be encouraged to attend the club on those nights," she wrote.

The price charged to men is not so burdensome that it amounts to denying them entry, Elliott argued.

In his lawsuit, Hollander said he sought to represent all men over age 21 who had entered one of the nightclubs since June 21, 2004, and been subjected to policies that provide discounts to women of the same age.

He asked a judge to conclude that the policies violated the Constitution and to assess minor damages against the clubs.

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The lawyer has an intersting argument; at what point do we say its discrmination? I have an ISIC which allows me discounts because I'm a student....

My real "beef" with ladies is nights is from my personal experience they can be used to manipulate females. Females get intoxicated, males can take advantage because the ladies are spending more on drinks. When I would go out to the bar I'd bring say 10$ to drink. On a normal night that would get me 2 4$ (1 shot) Fuzzy navel and leave a 1$ tip/drink. However on ladies nights it would get either 4 single shots or 2 double shots Fuzzy navels. So if I spend the normal amount, I'd be drinking twice as much as normal....

I dont know

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Re: Are Ladies Nights unfair?
« Reply #1 on: Dec 19^th, 2007, 10:41pm »

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I'm not sure that's really the bar's fault though...we have to use our own judgement when drinking. I probably would have done the same as you, but it would still be my fault and not anything I should be allowed to sue the bar over.

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