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Pilar
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Explaining The Bible
« on: Feb 19^th, 2004, 8:44pm »

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David and I were watching a show sometime ago in regards to some of the critics of the Bible and accurate it is. This show addressed some of the "time" issues involved. David and I are writing this together so we can both recall it together (I will try to keep my hands off him and on keyboard while doing this lol) First keep in mind time is different everywhere a Lunar year, Mars year, etc etc are all differnt NOT 365 days. Also note our Calander is NOT perfect, that is why we have "Leap Year". In fact The Greeks has a more accurate Calander than the one we use now. Many critic state that God couldnt have created the Universe in 6 (7th he rested) days and science has proven that. Critics say the life span of an averge man during Biblical times was very short compared to nowadays but Bible states of those living hundreds of years. Now lets address some of the critics concerns

1.Universe created in 7 days! We know that God doesnt live on Earth therefore time (as we know it) is not the same. A day for God could be a year, Decade, Century or even an Eon! So did God create the world in 7 days very very possible. god is all powerful he could easily had created "The Big Boom" and creation could have begun but in "whose" time measurements?

2. Men living hundreds of years! Well it is unclear how time was measured then or if Bible was read correctly when rewritten. What if what we all felt was a year was either a misread or misunderstanding? What if the term "year" really meant MONTH!? that would mean Moses Abraham would have lived hundreds of months not YEARS So a man living 800 months would be 66 years old! Much more realistic.

Now most of the show was related to "Time" issues but useing this theory almost everything that one may doubt in Old Testement can be explained. I dont know why David and I started talking about this but we thought since we recalled it we would share it althoug we admit we cant recall name or whole show

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Re: Explaining The Bible
« Reply #1 on: Feb 19^th, 2004, 9:34pm »

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Well... the Bible is indeed something that tells something that is quite vague or off from Science... well God is powerful and He can make things in just a snap... Grin

Also it contains a lot of symbols which may seem too literal for us readers yet may symbolize something else... Grin

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Re: Explaining The Bible
« Reply #2 on: Feb 19^th, 2004, 11:57pm »

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very interesting. some of this i have heard before at school and some proved and disproved. (depending on who you believe. Wink

) i always shutter when i hear about explaining away the difficulties as there are many, many difficulties with the Bible. (especially since it is somewhat successfully argued that the pentateuch alone was written by four writers and pieced together...just read genesis 1 and 2 for the two different creation stories.)

having said that, i think that the conversation alone is what encourages me.

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Re: Explaining The Bible
« Reply #3 on: Feb 20^th, 2004, 12:05am »

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well yeah.... that is why it is best not to intertwine the Bible with Science specially if you have a weak faith....

It would be very confusing... like the instance about the creation of the world or the events in the Bible in relation to Human history...

Like if there really was a Garden of Eden.. or if the Great Flood and Noah's Ark did occurred.. or the other places or civilizations in the Old Testament...

At least most of the events in the New Testament could be traced in our Ancient History... Wink

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Re: Explaining The Bible
« Reply #4 on: Feb 20^th, 2004, 7:56am »

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This showed was for the skeptic it applied Scientific explanations for certain things especially regarding time. I agree that applying science to The Bible isnt what belief is about but it was very interesting and the theories applied made sense

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Re: Explaining The Bible
« Reply #5 on: Feb 20^th, 2004, 10:36pm »

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Well, rarely does the "scientific" join with the "spiritual." Science is great when learning to make a tree grow, a biscuit rise, creating a baby blanket, building a structure....understanding how a baby can grow in the womb.

To me, speaking of the "spiritual" isn't so easy. Even if one takes the Bible or the Koran (for instance), and reads and understands all the passages - someone will come around and tell us "it" couldn't (whatever the "couldn't" is) have happened that way or at that time - scientifically speaking. The Christmas star, representative of the star of Bethlehem, appears sometime in April which (according to scientists) means Christ couldn't have been born 12/15.

That's ok with me - I believe in Him and that's what is important to me - the most.

I think I'm blithering so I'll say - nightee night! Kiss

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« Reply #6 on: Feb 21^st, 2004, 10:13am »

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Nope, Nope I'm not getting started leaving this thread now. Lips Sealed

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Re: Explaining The Bible
« Reply #7 on: Feb 21^st, 2004, 10:16am »

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I"m with you doc! My brain is overloaded at this time anyway.

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Re: Explaining The Bible
« Reply #8 on: Feb 21^st, 2004, 6:01pm »

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Ok perhaps David and I were wrong to mention this show we saw Let me first say WE BELIEVE and we didnt need explanantion this show was for those UNbelievers who needed proof. This show merely offered explanation for events many say were IMPOSSIBLE however as we all know ALL is possible for GOD

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Re: Explaining The Bible
« Reply #9 on: Feb 21^st, 2004, 7:04pm »

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on Feb 21^st, 2004, 6:01pm, Pilar wrote:

Ok perhaps David and I were wrong to mention this show we saw

No - you weren't wrong to mention that show. Not at all. Every once in awhile, we have a sort of religious discussion - nothing wrong with that....nothing.

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Let me first say WE BELIEVE and we didnt need explanantion this show was for those UNbelievers who needed proof.

Maybe this production was for UNbelievers who go to "other" sources - many sources, far and wide - to find their so-called proof.

The Bible (can't speak for other holy books) tells of ways to seek the truth. The best way (I think) is to seek Him, speak with Him prayerfully - in solitude, on bent knees. Try to learn what it is that He wants us to do. Listen, He'll tell you. Watch, He'll show you. One has only to ask.

As we (Christians) have been told, in the "end" we will have our personal judgement with Him - and only Him. In the end, it matters to Him only that we believe in/on Him and did his works. Those who are out looking for "proof" of His existence, or proof that He exists, are wasting their precious time on earth - which I'm finding, is an incredibly short amount of time.

Sooo...this ole lady will step down off her soapbox and let another speaker come forward. :laff:

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Re: Explaining The Bible
« Reply #10 on: Feb 21^st, 2004, 9:47pm »

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This is very contraversial and very christian oriented. Do we have jews, muslims and other religions on this board? Or is this a Bible based board?

I am asking because I am not sure if you need a certain religous orientation to join this board. If this thread is the apparent view of the board, well I guess I have my answer.

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Re: Explaining The Bible
« Reply #11 on: Feb 21^st, 2004, 11:37pm »

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not necessarily. david and pilar were merely posting about a program that they viewed. if you spend some time reading the board, you would find people here vary in their opinions and religious beliefs. perhaps you might become a member and join in on the discussion.

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Re: Explaining The Bible
« Reply #12 on: Feb 22^nd, 2004, 10:12am »

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I am truly sorry if David and I gave the impression this was a Bible based board as said we were only commenting on a show we saw that gave logical explanations for certain events in bible that skeptics say "couldnt have happened"

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Re: Explaining The Bible
« Reply #13 on: Feb 22^nd, 2004, 12:23pm »

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on Feb 21^st, 2004, 9:47pm, Guest wrote:

This is a board where we have people from all religions and all around the world, really. Many of them are christians and they have a right to talk about something that they saw on tv that interested them and debate it amongst themselves, just as members of other religions also have the right to do the same. I don't see anything in this thread singling out and making fun of or attacking any other religions or people who follow other religions.

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Re: Explaining The Bible
« Reply #14 on: Feb 22^nd, 2004, 1:19pm »

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Just to throw in a comment this "theory" will apply to other beliefs as well. The show just happen to be about events in Bible but the whole "Time" issue could apply to Koran etc etc

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