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'Boy Meets Boy' Contestant Discharged from Navy
« on: Aug 25^th, 2003, 5:19pm »

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'Boy Meets Boy' Contestant Discharged from Navy
(Monday, August 25 10:31 AM)

LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) - Gone are the days when the Village People could prance around the stage urging fans to join their fellow man in the Navy.The cop and the construction worker wouldn't last a minute in today's Navy. Michael Jason Tiner, a combat systems instructor with eight years of military experience, was discharged from the Navy after he came out to the basic cable nation on the Bravo reality show "Boy Meets Boy."

Tiner, who taught at the Navy's Submarine Learning Center in San Diego, was one of the first men eliminated from the show. The first episode of "Boy Meets Boy" aired on July 29 and Tiner's discharge for violating the military's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy was made official on Aug. 19.

"The reason I did the show is that I felt if anyone had a right to go on the show, then I did," Tiner tells a reporter from the gay-lesbian-centric Window Media publications. "I should have all the rights that the other 14 guys have. I was comfortable enough with who I am and with my sexuality that I was ready to face the consequences."

"Boy Meets World" finds a single gay man choosing between 15 singles. Eight of the men are gay and if leading man James chooses one of them, they win a romantic vacation. If he chooses one of the seven straight men, the person chosen wins a cash prize. James is currently down to three men, two of whom are gay.

The process leading to Tiner's dismissal began when he was recognized by a fellow sailor in the show's promos. Tiner soon informed his command of his participation in the show, leading to his honorable discharge.

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« Reply #1 on: Aug 25^th, 2003, 5:26pm »

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Re: 'Boy Meets Boy' Contestant Discharged from Nav
« Reply #2 on: Aug 26^th, 2003, 4:44pm »

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i know that my opinion is not shared with the higher ups in the armed forces (at least not the majority) but THIS SUCKS! i still don't understand the armed forces turning people out because of sexuality. no explanation that i have ever heard makes sense. if someone wants to serve his/her country, he/she should be allowed to do so. i see all these people saying "support out troops'; i guess that just means the straight ones... Wink

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Re: 'Boy Meets Boy' Contestant Discharged from Nav
« Reply #3 on: Aug 26^th, 2003, 4:59pm »

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"Don't ask, Don't tell" is the policy.

I agree with eeschein, anyone willing to defend our country should be able to, however when the contestant signed up with the Navy he knew the policy... and he did receive an honorable discharge.

JM :twocents:

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I had never read this...I feel sick now.....

Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Don't Pursue:
Text of the Policy

Passed in Senate (63 to 33) on September 9, 1993
Passed in House (301 to 134) on September 28, 1993
1993 S. 1337; SEPTEMBER 16, 1993

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SEC. 546.
POLICY CONCERNING HOMOSEXUALITY IN THE ARMED FORCES.
(a) CODIFICATION.-

CHAPTER 37 OF TITLE 10, UNITED STATES CODE, IS AMENDED BY ADDING AT THE END THE FOLLOWING NEW SECTION:

654. Policy concerning homosexuality in the armed forces

(A) FINDINGS.-CONGRESS MAKES THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS:

1. SECTION 8 OF ARTICLE I OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES COMMITS EXCLUSIVELY TO THE CONGRESS THE POWERS TO RAISE AND SUPPORT ARMIES, PROVIDE AND MAINTAIN A NAVY, AND MAKE RULES FOR THE GOVERNMENT AND REGULATION OF THE LAND AND NAVAL FORCES.

2. THERE IS NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO SERVE IN THE ARMED FORCES.

3.PURSUANT TO THE POWERS CONFERRED BY SECTION 8 OF ARTICLE I OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES, IT LIES WITHIN THE DISCRETION OF THE CONGRESS TO ESTABLISH QUALIFICATIONS FOR AND CONDITIONS OF SERVICE IN THE ARMED FORCES.

4. THE PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THE ARMED FORCES IS TO PREPARE FOR AND TO PREVAIL IN COMBAT SHOULD THE NEED ARISE.

5. THE CONDUCT OF MILITARY OPERATIONS REQUIRES MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES TO MAKE EXTRAORDINARY SACRIFICES, INCLUDING THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE, IN ORDER TO PROVIDE FOR THE COMMON DEFENSE.

6. SUCCESS IN COMBAT REQUIRES MILITARY UNITS THAT ARE CHARACTERIZED BY HIGH MORALE, GOOD ORDER AND DISCIPLINE, AND UNIT COHESION.

7. ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL ELEMENTS IN COMBAT CAPABILITY IS UNIT COHESION, THAT IS, THE BONDS OF TRUST AMONG INDIVIDUAL SERVICE MEMBERS THAT MAKE THE COMBAT EFFECTIVENESS OF A MILITARY UNIT GREATER THAN THE SUM OF THE COMBAT EFFECTIVENESS OF THE OF THE INDIVIDUAL UNIT MEMBERS.

(Please go to following site for the rest....that is, if you can "stomach" it.)

http://psychology.ucdavis.edu/rainbow/html/dontasklaw.html

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