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Average Joe: The Joes Fight Back
« on: Jun 28th, 2005, 8:54am »
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Starts tonight 7:00 p.m. CST. on NBC
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Stunning 26-year-old red-headed Anna is looking for love. Can she find it with an average Joe? Watch as this unsuspecting model is surprised by the arrival, not of traditional leading men, but by a swarm of well-intentioned average Joes.
 
The enthusiastic guys hope to woo and win her over with their charm and personalities. But first, they'll have to navigate through an all-new series of dramatic challenges, outrageous surprises - and their toughest competition yet - seven strikingly handsome jocks who are cocky and confident that Anna will only have eyes for them.
 
Plus, each week one lucky Joe gets a total makeover and surprises Anna with his new look. With plenty of romance, a trip to Tahiti and new twists at every turn, this new season promises lots of summer fun. Hunks beware, the Joes are fighting back!
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Re: Average Joe: The Joes Fight Back
« Reply #1 on: Jun 28th, 2005, 4:22pm »
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 28th, 2005, 5:26pm »
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First of all, I don't think Anna is "stunning".  
 
As for the guys, I can't wait to see Joshua's makeover.  Not half bad...
 

 
Josh has some potential as well.  
 

 
Dante doesn't have a prayer.  
 
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« Reply #3 on: Jun 28th, 2005, 7:29pm »
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 29th, 2005, 12:54am »
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Dante was hilarious!!!  Personality wise, the first Josh was a little creepy to me... he keeps rushing her doing this "monkey walk" thing... My favorite bit about Josh (the first one above) - someone commented "you look like the Messiah!".. rofl.. my dd said "he does!.. It's like pictures of Jesus!".. then his "name thing" pops up and said "Joshua/Carpenter"... we just looked at each other.. roflol.
 
I liked Dante, don't think he has a chance - but he's entertaining!!  And has more glasses than Elton John I think.. saw at least three different pair just in the first show.
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Cheesy I agree Dante doesn't have a prayer but he's very entertaining , whats not to love ? It was also great to see Brian and the other guys .
 
 



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« Reply #6 on: Jun 29th, 2005, 7:47am »
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Average Joe 4, The Joes Strike Back, Episode 1: Could This Be Magic?  
by Bruce Barker -- 06/29/2005  
 
 
Average Joe is back, and the guys immediately face some tough tests. First, they have to survive the scrutiny of some former Joes. Then, they have to face the intimidating spectacle of the lovely Anna (right). Only the strong survive – who will they be?  
 
Across America tonight people tuned in to catch Average Joe and, like me, were greeted by President George W. Bush. “Wow,” I thought, “as reality show twists go this one is a beaut, but how did he get the First Lady’s permission to go on a dating show?” Did this mean the Democrats would want equal time and demand a slot on Survivor for Ted Kennedy? But I soon realized that Average Joe was going to start off the season by getting bumped to a later slot for the night. This meant that a lot of people were going to miss the show completely. I decided to take one for the team and finish this recap as quickly as possible so those of you who missed out will at least be able to pick things up next week without being too far behind. NBC is showing reruns of the episodes on the Bravo channel, so check your local listings and maybe you can catch it after all. About a third of the episode was devoted to getting us acquainted with the Joes and you can get all the info on them in my introduction article. But if you haven’t read it already don’t read it yet! Without knowing it, I included a huge plot spoiler in it. I know it’s inconvenient but you might want to read a bit further here before checking out the introductory article. For those who have read the piece already, I do apologize.  
 
The premiere begins with a montage that lasts several minutes. It reveals a number of things that will be happening in the coming episodes, and rather than spoil things further, I’m going to skip the details and reveal them as they actually happen during the season. The most notable things that are revealed are that the ultimate prize for the final couple will be a trip to Tahiti, and the already well-publicized announcement that some of the rejected Joes will undergo makeovers and return later in the season.  
 
The show begins in earnest as the beautiful woman at the center of the show learns that she is going to be living aboard a 15 million dollar yacht, complete with a full crew, for the duration of the show. Anna is a rather stunning redhead who was raised by hard working Polish immigrant parents. She is a model, a rock video star, and holds a degree in business. The opulence of her surroundings moves her to tears, and she hides from the cameras as she becomes overwhelmed by it all. She tells us in a voiceover that the thought of how proud her parents would be to see her amidst this splendor was too much for her to take. Anna describes herself as a hopeless romantic who is always smiling.  
 
As her yacht begins to head to the Land of the Joes, 22 men anxiously await her arrival. This year’s Joes gather in a gym and grab seats in the bleachers. A few moments later the doors open and in walk… three former Joes! Fredo, Brian (the almost-winner of Average Joe 2), and Daaaaavid Daskal are nattily attired and full of a confidence that they didn’t have before their appearances on the show, and the former Joes address the group and tell them what to expect. They give their fellow Joes a bio on Anna and then warn them that the producers are sneaky. Regular viewers know there is a crop of studs that will show up to try and steal Anna’s heart, and the former Joes tell the new crew that this season will be no exception to that rule. But to make matters even worse, this season, four of the Joes will be eliminated before they even get a chance to meet Anna. The former Joes will narrow the field down to 18 men. To my knowledge, Average Joe is the only reality show in which contestants from earlier seasons come back to narrow the next crop of hopefuls. This is also where my introductory article contains the spoiler, for I wrote only about the 18 men who made it past this point. If you read that article, you’ll know in advance which men made the cut.  
 
The former Joes explain that there will be three drills that the guys will go through. After the drills, the guys will all be given T-shirts, with the exception of the four who are being eliminated. The first drill is a round of dodgeball against some of the stud contestants from prior seasons. But not to worry… it’s not the real-life studs. It’s just giant beanbag versions with pictures pasted on them. It’s a good confidence builder, and the Joes attack them with relish. I’m happy to say that not a single Joe was injured in the first drill! The second drill is a talent competition. One Joe, sporting a demonically shaped beard, brags about how he can stuff popcorn up his nose and make it shoot out of his eye sockets. Thankfully, we are spared a demonstration, but we do get to watch the former Joes turn a lovely shade of green as the contestant gives a detailed explanation of the path the popcorn takes on its journey from nostril to tear duct. Dante, a heavyset Joe, comes out next with a ribbon and performs a rhythmic gymnastics routine that has the former Joes convulsing with laughter.
 
In the break between drills, we see Anna aboard the yacht as it heads toward the marina where she will meet the men. She tells us that because of night school, she hasn’t seen much television and knows nothing about reality dating shows. She also tells us that simple things are what really dazzle her. She says that a little note that says “I love you” means more than any expensive gift. The irony of the fact that she just finished literally swooning with joy over the multi-million dollar crash pad she’ll be staying in appears to be lost on her. Simple things indeed.  
 
Back in the gym the guys are given a mock date with a beautiful woman to help them prepare for what they are about to face. Larissa, the stunning woman from Season 2, is a good sport for an amusing montage of the Joes as they come up one by one and mumble almost identical “how ya doin’” comments to her as they sit down with her at a table in the center of the gym.
 
The third and final drill is a brutal recreation of a scene from the movie Dodgeball. One by one, the Joes stand in front of automatic ball launchers and get hammered. Fortunately they are spared the “if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball” challenge and only have to endure actual rubber balls bouncing off of their faces. The first elimination of the season now takes place and I’m sad to say that Mr. Pop Secret does not make the cut. Maybe he can get a job in Orville Redenbacher’s next commercial. NOW you can take a peek at the final 18 in my introduction column!  
 
The 18 Joes are shuttled to the mansion they will call home for the season and immediately decorum goes out the window as they all crash the kitchen and start to pig out. Igor digs in with great relish and is soon shoving anything that doesn’t try to run away into his mouth. The other Joes react in shock and quickly start shoving their hands into their pockets as a precaution. It wouldn’t bode well for their chances if they can only “shake stumps” with Anna when they get introduced, after all! Eventually the group moves to the pool to begin the important process of sizing one another up and splitting into groups for backbiting practice.  
 
Anna’s yacht finally arrives, and she is shuttled to shore in a skiff. The bus full of Joes arrives, and Anna’s face is full of more hopeful anticipation than all the Red Sox fans at last year's World Series combined. The first person off the bus is Dante and anticipation quickly turns to a frozen smile as he stumbles toward her and gives her a rose apparently hand-made out of aluminum foil. As he walks away from her, he begins weeping with joy. “To think I actually have a chance with her…” he tells us as he dissolves into tears. This guy definitely wears his heart on his sleeve!
 
One by one the Joes come forth and Anna’s smile is now looking as genuine as a Cracker Jack diamond ring. Joshua – the independent filmmaker with a definite resemblance to many folks’ Personal Savior – literally swoops across the sand towards her and scares her half to death. As the bus doors close for the final time, Anna’s face changes to take on a look of resignation. “I get it,” she tells us in voiceover, “these aren’t my usual type physically.” Back on board the yacht, she has a discussion with the producers that isn’t pretty. “At least I know they aren’t psychos,” she says trying to find the silver lining, “I mean… they’ve all been screened right?” To her credit she does admit that she already knows that some of the guys will be hard to cut because they’ve been so sweet to her already.  
 
That night she returns for an elegant meal under the stars. Upon her arrival the guys take turns alternately swarming around her like flies on a sugar cube and complaining in interview clips about how horribly all the other guys are behaving around her. As they cluster around her, they regale her with talk of their careers, and Joshua introduces himself as a construction worker and carpenter by trade. Carpenter? What’s he going to do next, walk across the water of the swimming pool? Bill, the Ralph Malph looking redheaded contestant who earlier said that he doesn’t date other redheads because two reds don’t make a right, spends his time staring at Anna like she’s the first meal he’s seen in a week.
 
Soon things settle down a bit, and each man gets some time to chat alone with Anna. Nick tells Anna about his recently failed relationship where his best friend stole his woman away. (Smooth move, Romeo!) He then starts showing her magic tricks. Uhm, Nick? This isn’t what Heart meant when they sang about the magic man who has the magic hands! Harold tells her that he lost his job because he came on this show, and it really puts Anna off. She tells us in an interview clip that the whole, “I lost my job for you so you better pick me” routine left her feeling pressured and cold. As is sadly typical of men who don’t get a lot of face time with attractive women, many of the guys slip into cliché examples of what not to do when meeting a woman:  
 
Josh goes the flattery route, raving about her beauty, but thankfully stopping short of shouting, “My God! You are so hot!”
 
Aaron starts selling himself even to the point of comparing his looks to Ben Affleck and Joseph Kennedy. Anna, being a better person than I would have been, listens with a straight face.  
 
Arthur, the self-proclaimed Karaoke King, regales her by singing a sincere but corny song for her.  
 
Dante too goes the flattery route, but his face is so full of sincere emotion and close to tears in his awe of her that even a wax statue would have been moved by it.  
 
After spending some time with them each, Anna is feeling much better about things and tells us that she’s getting excited. Sadly, this is all just the prologue to the first elimination where six of the Joes will be asked to leave.
 
After what seems like 200 car commercials and a short preview for the returning Biggest Loser, we come back to see the Joes gathered in a group on the beach and looking quite forlorn. At first I think they saw the Loser preview, which was very emotional, but then I realize it’s just that they know what’s coming. Anna slowly walks in front of them and says, “This really sucks.” She then apologizes and, instead of calling forward those she wants to continue seeing as is the norm on dating shows, she calls the six she is eliminating, one at a time. She calls Aaron F. down first, and in interview he displays more of his defensive ego by speculating that the show must be rigged because he knows he’s better than some of the others. As you might suspect after her comments about feeling pressured, Anna shows Harold the door next. He shows us a brave face and tells us that he’s “already over it.” Damien is third to go and he takes it very well, wishing all the other guys the best of luck. His elimination was the first to surprise me, and I’m sorry to see him go because he seemed like a genuinely decent guy.  
 
Redheaded Bill is next and he although he is definitely bummed out, he tells us, “it doesn’t matter.” Matt is the second-to-last and is philosophical about it, saying he knows he isn’t going to be the last to go. Finally Nick is told that his next trick will have to be the “Vanishing Man.” Dejectedly he tells us he’ll have to go home and work on his magic some more. As the bus pulls away, she turns to the remaining Joes and calls for a group hug. Joshua once again goes into his swooping act and, the tension broken, Anna dissolves into giggles.
 
Now what I call the Swan/Drake twist is revealed. Each week one of the eliminated Joes will undergo a complete makeover and will return later in the season with another chance to win Anna’s heart. Magic Man Nick is the lucky duck this week. A doctor tells him that he’s carrying 45 extra pounds of fat. I’m stunned. If this guy is toting 45 extra, I must be packing most of a Humvee! He begins workout sessions with a personal trainer and gets his eyebrows waxed. This goes a long way towards erasing the Alfred E. Neuman expression from his features. He also undergoes some rather interesting therapy to improve his self-image. He watches the video of his interaction with Anna as the image coach points out things he could have done differently. He is appalled and embarrassed by his behavior and vows to drop the magic routine and let his true personality speak for itself. He has some fat deposits surgically removed from his jowls and some work done around his eyes. The now-famous veneers are applied to his teeth, and then he’s whisked off for a new hairstyle and a completely new wardrobe. The change in his appearance is remarkable, especially when you consider how minor the actual surgeries were compared to the drastic things we’ve come to expect from other makeover shows.  
 
 
After another Loser ad (and I’ll admit it, I’m already hooked) we come back to a preview of next week’s episode. The studs are on the way. They are racing across the sands in identical red sports cars, checking their looks in the mirrors and promising to bring hellfire and damnation when they land. We are shown clips of them throwing the Joes’ beds out the door and even getting physical with Dante, grabbing him by the face. These guys obviously know what the producers expect of them and they arrive without mercy or consideration for anyone’s feelings – including Anna’s. “I haven’t even met her yet,” says one of them just before he promises he’s going to take over the whole place. Meanwhile, we also see clips of Anna getting much closer and more involved with several of the Joes. It is certain that in coming weeks more than a few hearts will be broken, and at least a couple of the Joes will find strength within themselves that they never knew they had. I’ll be there rooting for them, and I hope you will be too.  
 
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« Reply #7 on: Jun 29th, 2005, 7:53am »
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I ended up missing it.   Sad
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« Reply #8 on: Jun 29th, 2005, 8:46am »
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Poop! I missed it too. Did anyone catch it? How was it. Should I set up the TIVO for the next episode?
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Poo Poo here, as well! Undecided
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I saw it quite accidentally - I had it on thinking it would come on after the President - then the Hilton's came on and I was on the computer with the TV on.  Never bothered to turn it off, and was about to go change the channel when I heard it starting.. Smiley
 
It was typical "Joe" fare - we've decided these may have more of a chance, simply because of Anna's background.  Dad is a truck driver, forgot what she said about mom - and they are Polish immigrants.  She has a degree in business (not swimsuit modeling) and in talking to Josh about construction last night told him she knew how to do all that, she'd actually worked construction - drywall, painiting, etc... she just seems to us someone who might actually be interested in the person, not how he looks!
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I missed the premiere too... i thought they would postpone it to next week... maybe they'll rerun it, since a lot of us missed it ?
 
i love this show... i hope, for once, a joe will win the girl... yup, i'm a hopeless romantic Wink
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« Reply #12 on: Jul 3rd, 2005, 1:04am »
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send Josh (the one with glasses) to Canada - I'll take him!  
 
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« Reply #13 on: Jul 5th, 2005, 11:06am »
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LOL... yeah, there were several my DD thought were "freakin adorable!!".. not sure how they figured into this other than the fact that they're "geek" types.  
 
Episode 2 is on tonite.. and the "hunks" are supposed to arrive... *ick*  I think they should leave that twist out of this... OR if they insist on putting it in.. make them all "even".. when you vote out it should be anyone she wants.. not one of each or two of each... THAT would be fair!!
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on Jul 3rd, 2005, 1:04am, Red wrote:
send Josh (the one with glasses) to Canada - I'll take him!  
 
average schmaverage!!

 
oh you'll have to fight me ! Wink he's so cute ! and seems like he has a great personnality... i'm sure he's going to end up in the final guys... lucky anna !
 
btw, the hunks are not that "hunky" at all... good body perhaps, but some faces are... well, kind of weird, don't you think ? i'd take josh over any of those guys in a second.
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